Lorraine says Mother Mary is a deceiver!

Lorraine never ceases to amaze me! Wacko

Ok - first things first - it may be that not everyone is bothering to keep up to date with Lorraine's "spiritual movement", (a very understandable state of affairs), so I will run through the events leading up to this.

After the split between Kim & Lorraine, the latter party closed the Shangra-la forum, "Flame Of Oneness", and removed the Shangra-la website.
She then gathered her followers around a new forum, "Flame Of Purity", and a new teaching website, "Theosophia Is The Way".

http://www.theosophiaistheway.com/

She has been producing supposed communications from Ascended Masters on this site, (see the "Messages From Heaven" section).

The latest offering is alleged to come from the Goddess Theosophia, (who's penultimate embodiment - so it is claimed - was Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of the Christian Science movement).

In this message Lorraine takes her crusade against Mother Mary's teachings on the Conscious You to a whole new level. Lorraine actually states that Mother Mary genuinely gave the teachings on the Conscious You, (which is TRUE), but that in doing so she, Mother Mary, was deliberately deceiving Kim and those who would read the teachings!

I quote:

"We did not have the understanding of the power of the subconscious mind, nor its great repository of negativity created from out of the ego born of pride. Some of you are beginning to understand the connection of this pride to the birth of the Conscious You that your prior Messenger introduced through his teachings. You are seeing how the Conscious You is the supplanter of the Real Self, the Christ Self and I AM. Now you may ponder why this new concept was introduced by an Ascended Lady Master*** and why we would introduce a term as a new concept to describe the real self."

Now the footnote to which, "***", points:

"***Mother Mary introduced the concept of the Conscious You in her book, The Master Keys to Abundant Life, published by Kim Michaels in 2005."

Lorraine (as "Goddess Theosophia") goes on:
"When it was time to divide the Way and separate out the good wheat from the chaff, it was very easy to introduce the Conscious You philosophy which prided itself on being unconditional love and thereby above the dualistic beliefs of El Morya students who believed in fallen angels and that evil doers exist. Thus necessitating raising the right hand in judgment of the evil on this planet in order to return to the pristine state of Godliness, both within the planet and incarnating individuals. This was not acceptable to the Conscious You followers, who believe that turning the other cheek was enough to return any wrong doing to its source. Jesus taught both practices in his time in Jerusalem. He taught that it is sometimes necessary to turn the other cheek and it is sometimes necessary to call forth the judgment in pointing out the evil doers. The philosophy of the pacifists would be to remain unmoved at all costs and avoid conflicting situations such as exposing evil and its source.

With these two seemingly basic opposing viewpoints, we divided the Shangra-la movement and its Messengers into dualistic sides. Beloved, it may seem unrealistic to take a perfectly good organization and divide it and its leaders. But the purpose was twofold and served a much higher good, that was worth the breaking up of what seemed right on the outside but was staged to expose the deeper darkness within that went all the way back to the original fall of Adam and Eve. This exposure was a sacrifice and it caused everyone pain and suffering because the Conscious You is unconscionable.

Although we appeared to be introducing a concept that was of the Light, introducing the Conscious You philosophy was a strategic move brought about because the prior Messenger agreed with its basic concept of peace and harmony above all else."

So there we have it, according to Lorraine...

1. Mother Mary in particular and the Ascended Masters in general practise deception and deliberately introduce poisonous lies into communications designed to raise the consciousness of this planet

2. The ends justify the means

3. The Ascended Masters attempt to solve the problems of the duality consciousness by employing dualistic techniques involving conflict and division. In other words the problems caused by a certain state of consciousness can indeed by solved by the same state of consciousness that created the problem in the first place. This flatly contradicts what the Masters have released through Kim... but then, I guess in the light of this message that everything given through Kim could be lies and we will have to depend on Lorraine now for Divine Direction?!?

I am staggered by this! I'm having real trouble getting my head around the fact that even Lorraine could be so outrageous.

Mother Mary's communications are of infinite purity; their source, (her heart), is absolutely pure, no matter what distortions or colorings may be introduced by the messengers' consciousness.

Mother Mary is a source of pure truth, pure love, pure wisdom and pure power.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject:

Reading that, I don't get any of that sharp sense of clarity that the ring of truth has. What I get is a tangled, convoluted web. I think Occam's Razor (a brilliant principle that's unfortunantly been hijacked by the materialist science brigade) applies here. Our intuition is a sense, and it can sense truth by the amount of elegant simplicity a teaching has.

Jesus through Kim never taught us to ignore or deny imperfect states on Earth, he clearly teaches us the higher middle way above and beyond the dualistic reactions of burying one's head in the sand Vs fighing evil/accusing people of being fallen angels and attacking them. I don't see how he could spell it out any more clearly. Real God judgement is actually a non-judgement (in the human sense). Laugh

I never understood why Lorraine gets so hung up on this one - just take the middle way and it becomes a non-issue.

The Conscious You as I understand it is the nexus point between our 'lower' and 'higher' beings - the part that can identify itself as anything it desires. I fail to see what this has to do with anything else Lorraine says next. It all makes zero sense to me, I suspect because there isn't any sense in it.

Also, what's up with Lorraine's incessant wordiness? Is she capable of simply saying what she means instead of hiding behind these fancy-schmancy wordings? This has to be an inbalance of sorts.

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Anne and John,

What I see in what Lorraine teaches on her website is the state of consciousness she lives from and when she writes she projects that into her writings. She exposes her true self with every thing she writes. She writes about the world as being a dark and evil place, and that says alot about the state of consciousness she lives from which is dark and evil.

What you posted John, is just another projection of Lorraine's state of consciousness in her believing that Mother Mary would lie and deceive people, which again, this is something that Lorraine does is lie and deceive people and she is just projecting her own state of consciousness onto Mother Mary.

Another thing that Lorraine is doing in her writings is not wanting to look like the bad one, because it was her who got dumped. So she has to make everyone believe Kim is the bad one and for months she has been trying really hard to get people to see Kim as being a bad person, a false messenger which Lorraine isn't going to give up on this, but the more she writes and projects herself into her writings the more people will wake up to seeing her for what she really is.

Edit to say:

Hi Anne,

I just reread your post and you must have been editing when I was making my post. But I wanted to say that to me the latest messages from the Masters about the Conscious You is like what you said, and I have also picked up that for a person to Ascend or make their ascension in this lifetime that you have to be here below all that you are above. And so the latest teachings is them giving a higher teaching for those who are ready to leave the things of this world behind, to completely let go of them. And there will be those such as Lorraine who do not want anyone to win their ascension, and no one would as long as people see this world as being dark and evil. So, a person has to let go and Live here in the Material world the way you would Live and Be if you have already won your Ascension and are already an Ascended Master.

Another thing, the universe returns to a person what they project into it, so if a person see's the world as dark and evil then the universe is going to return to that person dark and evil thoughts and life experiences, which will just reinforce to them that the world is dark and evil. I think Lorraine might know this stuff. Unsure

Christ Love,
Janise

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Again, I think Lorraine is turning non-issues into big deals. The universe is a mirror and our circumstances reflect our thoughts, but if I suddenly change my mindset it's not like *poof* everything in my life changes overnight. The new circumstances gradually filter in, and for some time I'll still meet the consequences (or 'karma' if you will) of my old mindset. I don't see why it can't be the same with the Conscious You and karma. The Conscious You can make the decision to cast off the 'old man' and identify with a higher consciousness than the one from which it made the karma. In this way you will naturally and effortlessly stop making karma and with a little time gradually raise any low energies (karma) in your energy field. I don't think it's useful to us to see karma as a 'punishment' which needs to be 'paid back'. After all we ARE indeed pure individualizations of God and all karma was created by identifying with unreality.

I wonder what beings Lorraine is in contact with now. Her new website is riddled with dualistic thinking, trying to create some sort of war between various ascended masters! So Jesus, Mother Mary, Maitreya and Gautama are all now evil serpents and deliberately deceptive? OK Lorraine... Roll eyes

Also, why does she keep talking about herself in third person? It literally has me bursting out laughing Laugh

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Hi Anne and John,

I don't think the Conscious you is a short cut to balancing Karma either, which you explained the balancing of karma very well and the way I see it too and I think John does to. Because it does take time for your affects of your creations to manifest themselves.

To me, karma is not a postive thing or even a negative thing. I mean, lets say you didn't like the bed you sleep in, and so a thought came to your mind of wanting a new bed. A few days later you come across a great sale on beds, and you have a way to buy that bed. And then a couple nights later you find yourself lying in your new bed and happier than all get out. This to me is returning karma, or you reaping what you sow, or the universe returning to you what you sent out.

And there is no need to think about why you even had the bed you didn't like, because you decided to change your circumstances with sleeping on the bed you didn't like and you were able to buy a new one. And the thought alone was picked up by the universe and it laid out for you the way to provide you one. And the universe isn't going to provide a way for you to buy a new bed if you weren't ready to pay for it. Or you may have been offered a new bed for free in some way or another.

I look at the so-called negative karma in the same way, in that whatever bed you find yourself lying in, you are responsible for having created that bed by projecting thoughts into the universe which the universe just manifested those thoughts to you in same way.

So, If a person has a negative attitude about life, then the universe is going to return to that person negativity until that person decides they had enough and changes their attitude to a positive one, and then the universe will return positivity to that person. And all that it starts with is a simple change of thought.

My mom for the longest time looked at karma as a bad thing, but I think she see's it as not being a bad thing any more. Which I used the example of our furniture we have, such as the bookshelves we have, because we had a thought, which the universe picked up on, and then a few days later we bought a couple bookshelves that were on sale, and then we had a place to put our books. And that was the consequence for having the thought of having new bookshelves which we like very much.

Christ Love,
Janise