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Hans-Peter I AM God Vision Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Total posts: 157 Location: Switzerland Age: 52 Gender: Male Gold Coins: 6312
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 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I just looked at that website and read a few passages from one of her lastest dictations (Igor) about Will.
| Quote: | | You have felt the urgency in the will. You have felt the burdens on your being. You may have felt the weight upon you as well. And that weight may have pressed upon you so you could not summon the will to move from where you are to the place your will leads you each day to Be More. And why is that beloved? Because the will is the first thing you lose when you have lost your strength. And for those who feel their strength is not what it was a month ago, or a few months ago or a year or two ago, I will tell you what is happening in your world. |
So what this is about is to give them explanations why they should keep going on, making them believe that it is a normal condition to have no will and strength, when the truth is that this is only when we are deprived of our light. If somebody steels our light, we loose our power and these things are just a way to keep them where they are and make out of this a normal condition.
I haven't read any more, but there will probably be a dualistic remedy in the end where it is necessary to go into one extreme, to align with something that seems to be power only to get still more ensnared.
Concerning the conscious you:
I see it as the part of the Creator out of which I am made, having all the qualities of the Creator and thus is an extension of the creator.
Yes, I remember, Kim once told me that Lorraine never understood the Conscious You.
So if she does not understand it, she can only interpret it with the mind, which makes it an illusion if she believes that I AM is everything and that we need to become I AM through our Christ Self. But she doesn't realize that the outer self is not that which can align with I AM, it is only the purified self that has become conscious of itself as the pure essence of God, being the Conscious You that can do so.
So in the end, denying the conscious You, is the ego that wants to become perfect and this cannot be done while the Conscious You grows in awareness and remembrance of who we are, conscious extentions of God, endowed with free will to enjoy and direct the the gifts that come from the Spirit world.
So it is quite natural that ego and any dark force will deny and try to eliminate any remembrance, acceptance and expression of the Conscious You. Instread they postulate divine will as the ultimate that needs to be followed in order to receive salvation, making out of those that follow nothing less than slaves because they may never have their own direction and awareness if they are taught to thwart the very power by which they could gain any measure of illumination and self-awareness.
Yes it is tragic indeed, but still, all those people that follow her need this experience, so it is not bad. And in the end, everybody will have enough of it and eventually rise.
I am glad that Lorraine is so extreme in her manners. Meaning that at least by her manners she cannot fail to make it obvious to even the most stubborn ego bound lifestream over time.
Love,
Hans-Peter |
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| Anne Magda I AM God Liberty Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Total posts: 51 Age: 24 Gender: Female Gold Coins: 3144
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| Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:07 am Post subject: |
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That's a great way of explaining the importance of the Conscious You there Hans-Peter.  If we deny the existance of the Conscious You, then in effect we are trying to align ourselves with the I AM presence using the force of our outer will which very quickly becomes just another ego game. What you said reminds me a lot of what More tells us midway through this 2007 message.
'Igor' continues...
| Quote: | | Where has your will gone beloved? Well, you never owned it to begin with! It was not yours and it never was. And part of the reason you would have lost your will was to teach you that God's Will is one with your own. When you deny God's Will in your world, you are in effect denying your own will as well. Accept God's Will as your own and see how quickly you have your own will back, and a desire to do those things you want to do and more. |
Yet more dualistic reasoning from the same 'dictation'. It's effectively saying that we have to accept God's will in replacement of our own will because God's will is NOT our own will.  How disempowering. |
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| Anne Magda I AM God Liberty Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Total posts: 51 Age: 24 Gender: Female Gold Coins: 3144
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I just thought of another reason why Lorraine might object to the Conscious You. Apparently the Conscious You survives the second death, meaning that 'you' are not erased during this process per se, only whatever unreality you have come to identify with. Someone who is caught in the epic of the dualistic battle of good vs evil would probably prefer to see the 'evil' people either completely obliterated or severely punished rather than simply returned to their original purity. Of course we know that the second death is clearly the low path a being can choose since they have not multiplied the talents and become the More, rather they have been returned to their 'default settings'.  However someone in the epic good vs evil mindset would probably see this as a cosmic slap on the wrist or worse, a way for the 'evil' beings to get off scott free and avoid the 'punishment' of their returning karma. They want to turn the whole second death concept into a punishment, a case of "do this bad stuff and God will punish you by suddenly erasing you against your will" - if you see the second death this way it soon just becomes the same thing as the fire and brimstone of fundermentalist Christianity.
Anyone else see what I'm getting at?
So long as you identify yourself as pure awareness, rather than any tempory physical form or role, you can be certain that you will never cease to exist, and have no need to fear any deaths or second deaths. The conscious you is beyond even your I AM presence. |
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| John Mortimer The Conscious You - brighter than a thousand suns!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi Anne,
Yes, the epic drama mindset cannot contain nor comprehend the truth of the Conscious You and the latter completely spoils the "happy ending" where the bad guys get what's coming to them. Mother Mary was indeed very ebullient in her descriptive monicker, "Conscious YOU", since the infinite is personalized... which may be, interestingly, why other masters are not so bold, but speak of the "conscious self", etc. There's no pussyfooting about with Mother Mary though... the immaculate concept right in yer face!! 
The Conscious You is infinite, whereas the I AM Presence is finite. However the I AM Presence is also untouched by the second death - the recycling of the soul-vehicle. |
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| Hans-Peter I AM God Vision Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Total posts: 157 Location: Switzerland Age: 52 Gender: Male Gold Coins: 6312
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| Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Anne,
Yes, the 2nd death is nothing less than an act of mercy because when a life stream has chosen the low path to the degree where suffering and increasing karma makes it almost impossible for the reasoning faculties to function in such a manner that it could accept any help whatsoever, stubbornness will eventually become so great that the life stream will prefer death over the humiliation that the ego sees itself of going through if it acknowledged its failure.
So even the 2nd death is an act of free will where the choices have been drastically reduced to the final decision between life and death of the personality. |
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