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Janise Loving Liberty
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: Near Death Experiences |
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I thought I would post two of the NDE's I had in the forum instead of on the main site. Over the years I've talked in bits and pieces about the NDEs I had, but I don't think I actually told the entire experience. The first NDE I had was short lived. (Odd choice of words, but it's good enough.)
The second NDE was a bit more and have had a hard time sharing it with others, because it's a personal to me and up until a little over a year ago was embarrassing for me to have anyone know what all happened.
Anyways, the first one is the following, and this should really be in the expose one's self, but it's also a spiritual experience so I'm posting it in this forum.
Christ Love,
Janise
First Near Death Experience
The first NDE was when I was 15. I knew I had died as I felt myself leave my body, it happened very quickly. I was already scared and in a lot of physical pain as it was being inflicted upon me, then I was just very scared with no physical pain. I knew then that I was still alive but I wasn't in my body, as I was hovering over my body looking down at myself and looking around the room. When I would look at something I would be right infront of it.
Somehow I ended up outside looking up at the Earth's sky, but it was very colorfull and I could see as I was looking around at everything that there was a white pulsating light that was connected to everything. I remember thinking that it was weird I had never noticed that before. I saw this all from what seemed like a standing position or a floating standing position. There were many Beings of Light that appeared out of no where, which I had this instant knowing they were Angels. There was one that appeared very close to me and told me it wasn't my time and to go back. The Angels had no wings, but were very large. They weren't fat, but just large built and tall, they had so much Light that came from them that that light extended around me and seemed to also be coming from me.
When had I ended up outside. That fear feeling went away and I felt Loved, but was very confused at what was going on. It was also very confusing for me to understand why this Angel would tell me to go back knowing what caused for me to have died. I was very angry with the Angels after that and wanted nothing to do with them. The thing I didn't like was I had always had this inner feeling of Love that I could not turn off no matter how hard I tried. The more feelings of Love you have within you, the more guilt you feel when you do things you know are wrong, or come to find out later that were wrong. Well, my true feelings was that I really Loved the Angels and wanted to be with them more than anything, I was just hurt and felt rejected by them.
A couple years later, I died again, but this time I was out of my body much longer than the first time.
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Janise Loving Liberty
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Dear all,
This is my second near death experience I had when I was 17.
I had woken up in the middle of the night gasping for air, with what it felt like air building up in my rib cage while at the same time it was being squeezed by something. I didn't know what was going on, but I couldn't breathe. I knew something was very wrong and I tried to call for my mother who was sound a sleep in her bed, but I could barely get a whisper out let alone call for her to where she could hear me.
I knew if I didn't get out of bed and go in and wake my mom to let her know what was going on, that I didn't know what was going to happen. I got up and was bent over still trying to breathe and I had to really focus on getting to her room, as it felt like I could pass out. I got in her room and was at the foot of her bed and said mom, but no sound came out. So, I bumped and hit her bed until she woke up.
She woke up, but she had been taking different kinds of pills before going to bed, and she was out of it and couldn't comprehend what I was doing in her room or why I was waking her up. I tried to tell her what was happening to me, but I couldn't even whisper at this point.
I could tell she was upset with me for waking her up. She said that it was late and for me to get back to bed. I couldn't stand there any longer. So, I focused all my attention on getting back to my room and getting laid down on my bed before I passed out. I laid there in bed, with that feeling in my rib cage becoming more and more tighter with what felt like air being pumped into my lungs or chest area. I was praying and hoping my mom would come in and do something that could help me.
I tried to holler for her again, but there was no sound to my voice. I looked over at the door to see if she was coming, but no such luck. I did hear her go into the bathroom and I was thinking she was going to come in and see if I was ok, but she went back in her room and shut the door. I laid on my bed wondering why she didn't come in and help me, or care enough to call 911 or something. But because of the pills she was taking, she couldn't comprehend.
I started praying as my breathing became less and less and then I couldn't take no breaths in, I could only breathe out. My eyes were wide open as I was looking up at the ceiling thinking to God to help me and to not let this happen. In no time, my vision went pitch black and then I was able to see again, which I was out of my body looking down at myself. I looked at the clock that was on the night stand next to my bed, it read 3:01 am. As I had looked at it, which was right infront of me, I started traveling backwards towards the ceiling. I saw myself becoming further and further from my body.
I eventually turned around and went into a very bright light and then I somehow found myself in a very beautiful garden, I heard music playing and birds singing and chirping. I heard water running from some where, it sounded like a waterfall that was just to the left of me. Before I could move or think much, there were two men who approached me and told me to follow them, I did. I followed them on a pathway through the garden into a very large round white building. Once inside two other men came up to the two that I followed and then we went into a small but very long room where there were two more men and two women that came up to us and the one woman told me to sit down as she pointed to a chair that was up against a wall.
They walked down that long room and stopped. I could see they were talking, and I assumed they were talking about me. I was a bit worried because no one was saying anything to me other than telling me what to do. They eventually walked back to where I was still sitting in the chair. One of the women told me to follow them, which I did. I followed them into a very huge round room, it reminded me of a very fancy football stadium.
Somehow the very large room became smaller with four white walls with a table that was V shaped with chairs that lined the outside of the table with one chair that sat by itself, which I figured I would be told to sit in that chair, so without anyone saying anything I sat in it. They all looked at me with smiles on their faces as they each sat down at the table.
The wall that was behind me came alive and I could hear my mom reading a book to me from when I was little. I turned around on the chair and saw myself at 3 years old sitting on my mom's lap while she was reading to me and being very loving towards me. A very deep sadness came over me and I fought from showing any kind of sad feelings, like wanting to cry. I grew up in a home and church that did not allow crying, and if you did cry then you would be given something to cry about.
I was looking around for an exit so I could leave because I couldn't keep from crying and I was very afraid of what they were going to do to me. A lady came over to me and told me she is known on Earth as Mother Mary, the Mother of Jesus. She told me to not be afraid and she refered to me as her child. She sat down next to me, where I continued to fight back the tears still afraid and very untrusting of anyone. But she put her arm around me and then it was like a dam had burst and I cried big time, I couldn't stop.
At some point, they all came over to me and let me feel their Love for me and the saddness and fear I had quickly went away. They let me experience who I was, who I truly was and that was I was Love. I was their sister as they were my brothers and sisters.
Mother Mary and Jesus talked to me the most when I was there, and they let me see that my mom would wake up and leave that church, but that she would have a very long healing process to deal with for her future. They all told me that it wasn't to late for me to return to the physical world and finish out this lifetime, but it was my choice. Jesus told me that I could also stay there for a while, but that I would have to go back later, or I could go back now. I thought about my mom and how much I Loved her and I didn't want her to wake up to a dead daughter.
I chose to go back now, which I didn't come back right away as I said my goodbyes to everyone and hugged them and cried some more, it felt like I was going through a death right there just having to come back to the material world. Mother Mary was the first one and the last one I hugged, after that I was back in my body. I painfully looked over at the clock to see what time it was, it was 3:21 am. I slowly began to breathe again, and the pressure in my rib cage started to ease up until it felt a bit bruised from all that pressure build up. Then I laid in bed the rest of the night wide awake and not the least bit tired thinking about what had just happened.
It was a year later I found the teachings of the Ascended Masters and knew then that my experience was real and that I was with some of them when I had crossed over into the spirit world.
I had always had a connection with Jesus ever since I was little, but I didn't know anything about Mother Mary other than she was Jesus's mom. The other spirit beings didn't look much different then me, other than they had a brightness to them, like a light that made them shine a bit.
Some people think that having an NDE and being where I was makes your troubles go away and changes you into something your not, we all have to deal with our own issues our own way and no one is going to wave a magic wand and make everything all better. Which it took years later for me to deal with the NDE and to let it go of wanting to go back Home, and then needing to deal with healing from my past.
In December of 2008, I had another NDE, which I will share that another time as I'm still writing up what I want to share with others about it.
Christ Love,
Janise |
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John Mortimer The Conscious You - brighter than a thousand suns!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Janise,
Thank you so much for sharing these.
You know what it's a bit like, reading these? It's a bit like getting a postcard from home.
The overwhelming sense I get is of the contrast between the sheer reality of your experiences and the sheer unreality we all have to be part of in these embodiments. I know we all volunteered for these embodiments, (and each person for a unique set of reasons), but I can totally understand what you say about how an NDE experience doesn't necessarily solve all problems in one's "life". |
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Janise Loving Liberty
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi John,
I think it made it worse after having those NDEs because of having experienced the Love and feeliing who and what I was, and then coming back into embodiment was like night and day. After I had returned to my body the second time, I continued to have the inner feelings I had with how they made me feel and let me feel. But then after a week or two went by, I began feeling how I did before with the negative pressure of this feeling to keep going with my life and with life in general because it was still several months before I turned 18 and could leave that church on my own and then mom leaving at the same time with me.
I had school, work and then moving out and living on my own for several years, but going back and living with mom from time to time during that time. I had put it behind me and everything behind me, but I was very much interested in and studying the teachings of the Masters. But even then, you can't forget what you experienced and then having to not get that from any place in the material world by anyone. So, that left me with this strong need to return to the Spirit World, where Home is. It's all of our Home, but with the Ascended Masters and being able to read their messages and their teachings gave me a taste of Home.
The NDE I had back in December of 2008, was even more different than the two I had when being a teenager. Which I knew that the way they handled me then, and had everything set up for when I crossed over at 17 was done in a way to try to be structured as in they had a job to do, but to try and make me comfortable and at ease, even though I was no where near being comfortable or at ease, not at first.
I know if the way my current NDE was was the way it was when I was 17, I would not have been ready for it, and it would have freaked me out to no end and probably scared me even more than I was.
But it lets me know that the Masters, the Angels, our relatives and friends, and pets all come to greet us and make us feel welcomed and totally accepted for who we are and they are just so happy to see us. There are huge celebrations over there, I didn't participate in any of them, but I saw others having theirs.
I know what ARJ has on there about the animals in the spirit world, but I have to tell you that all the pets you've had that have crossed over are over there. They don't need to be taken care of over there as they are their own person and they are much more smarter and intelligent then we in the material world give them credit for. Animals are God's eyes and so how a person treats an animal is how they treat God.
And I tell you in 170 years the animals will have the equal rights as humans do, so in the future there will be no killing of animals for food or for sport. The reason for this is because people will have grown out of wanting to do this and see animals as equal to them, so it will be added into the laws of the land for all nations.
I'll work on getting the third NDE finished and get it posted. I'm not going to post it on the main site, just in the forum which is fine with me.
Christ Love,
Janise |
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Janise Loving Liberty
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Dear all,
I been writing a little every day about the near death experience I had last December 1, 2008 and I'm not finished with it, but I did tell Cindy what led up to the NDE, and so I'm posting that here for now, and then I'll post more of what I've written as time goes by.
My Third NDE and what led up to having a third one.
I am going to try and write a page for the site about something that happened to me December of last year. I don't know how to explain it other than writing about the sciatica problem I had that started back up last October. Which as the days, weeks and months went by it kept getting worse. Well, throughout that time I slept sitting on the couch, it was easier than trying to get up off my bed, as I didn't have a frame and my bed sat low on the floor. It was very painfull to even get off the couch let alone off my bed. The pain would be very bad when I would go from sitting to standing straight up, and vice versa.
Anyways, the day after ThanksGiving I tried to get off the couch but couldn't use my legs due to to much pain. I thought I would try to get up from how I had gotten off my bed which was role over on my stomach and then slowly slide over until I could put my knees sitting on the floor and then use the chair to lift myself up using my arms. That was still very painful to do, because I would have to still go from a bending over position to a standing position and it was so much pain involved that it brought tears to my eyes and I would cry from the pain it was that bad.
When I tried to get off the couch by turning around slowly so I could be on my knees and use the couch to push myself up. I couldn't, as the pain was so bad, I never felt that much pain in my life. I tried to get myself up but I couldn't and my legs were all cramped up, the muscles were twisting in knots and the more I moved the more twisted the muscles would get.
I ended up sliding down onto the floor, in tears, crying and I was very angry I pounded the floor with my fist many times, and yelling at my mom to get out and leave me alone. There was nothing she could do and I didn't like her trying to lecture me about my anger. She went over to the neighbors and got some strong pain pills for me to take, that was a miracle. It took about 30 minutes for them to kick in. I was still in pain, but I was able to get up off the floor.
The reason I was trying to get off the couch was because it was morning and I had a loaded bladder. Well, it took me an hour to finally get to the bathroom and then to try get sat down to go to the bathroom was a nightmare.
I was able to get my steriods the following Monday, but they did not work like they had before. They didn't kick in, they didn't reduce the inflamation that helped ease the disc off my sciatic nerve. The pain kept getting worse and worse with every passing day. And doctors don't like giving out strong pain pills, and when they do its very few at a time.
It was December 1st and the morning started out with me waiting for the pain pills to kick in and trying to get off the couch. Well, the pain pills did not kick in and I couldn't move without that pain like before. I sat there and thought how I could get up using my mind which I went with the anger feeling, you know how anger can motivate you to making what is wrong right. I tried it, and I did start to get up and I think I used ever cuss word I could think of at the time. I was at my wits end and just beyond tired of dealing with that darn sciatic pain. Well, I got up to my feet, but I was bent over and for the life of me, I could not do anything but be in that position.
My mom started laughing and saying she wished she had a video camera because she would send it into AFV. I started laughing and joking around too. Well, the anger got me to my feet, and I finally got the nerve up to use every ounce of strength I had to get to stand straight up. I yelled the entire time and cried and prayed to God to give me strength. And telling myself "You can do it, Janise!"
I did this in a very jerky and quick way. I didn't feel any pain. The pain was gone and I found myself looking at my mom and me hugging, or so it looked like it. But my mom caught me as I went limp. She thought I had died, and quickly lowered me onto the couch as I wasn't moving, even though my eyes were open.
I tried to tell my mom that I was ok and I felt great and what a relief. But she didn't hear me, I was wondering if I had died as I had died before, I was also thinking that I must be having an out of body experience because I couldn't have died, my eyes are open. My mom ran in the kitchen and got the phone and that was the last I saw of anything.
I felt like I had been sucked up in a vaccum and was traveling some where, it was very dark but not evil dark. It would be as if you were trying to drive without the headlights on and no street lights to help guide you.
I didn't feel fear or pain, or anything other than worrying about my mom and if she was ok and who she was calling. I finally looked around more and saw a light that was getting bigger and bigger. I couldn't tell if it was coming to me or if I was going to it, even though it felt like I was moving through something. When I reached the Light, it cleared away and I was in another world, the world I was in when I had died an crossed over when I was 17.
More to come.
Christ Love,
Janise |
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Janise Loving Liberty
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Dear all,
Here is more of my NDE.
After arriving in the huge Garden, which I had been there before from when I had my second near death experience. I didn't have very long to look around and check anything out. A Light Being came up to me very quickly and told me to come as there was much to show me. I didn't have time to think about any thing as we were off at lightening speed. I barely had time to glance down at the garden I just arrived in when it disappeared and we were in some other world.
Which we had traveled through other worlds before we finally ended up at a place where there were other Light Beings who met us as we arrived, and then I looked around and I saw what seemed to be millions of other Light Beings who were all there with us. I felt like I was in the spotlight and knew I was.
I knew all of the Light Beings, and I call them Light Beings because that was how they appeared to me as full of Light that radiated off their Beings. They and I had tangible bodies and the Light Beings were very much into hugging and holding my hands, and putting their arms around me, and they were very happy to see me and were welcoming me Home. I was happy to be with them as well, and I felt this emotional pain of having felt like I missed them all. It was very much a feeling of having been Home sick and then after you get home, you just let go of the pain you had felt deep within you and then you just let it go through tears and then the Light Beings comfort and hug you to let you know they understand and you even feel that feeling of them reconnecting to a Loved one who has returned Home too. And so it was very much a family reunion with lots of healing tears that turned into happy tears with a sense of relief that you are now back Home where you belong.
During all of this, the millions of Light Beings that were all around us were also speaking up and welcoming me Home and encouraging me, and saying very Loving words to me. As I could feel the Love they had for me too. Now, this Love is not a human Love, or what we have come to believe unconditional, or Divine Love to be like. This Love is not at all any kind of Love that has ever been described here in the material world, this Love is beyond words, or any human expressions, or can ever be felt here in the material world. There is so much more to what Love is from the Spirit World and that comes from the Light Beings that you will have to experience it and feel it for yourself when you cross over some day.
Eventually, no one said anything and we were basically just standing there and it was very quiet other than hearing music that was coming from all around us. And then I started wondering what was next which I thought if I was going to have a life review because I had a very short one before, and have read of others who had life reviews who had crossed over. This thought was almost an instant thought, because the moment this all came to my attention, one of the Light Beings put his arm around my shoulder and we instantly relived my life and the life of others very quickly, but at the same time, it was very slow in some parts of reliving my life.
The life review wasn't as bad as I thought it might have been, it was actually very nice to be able to relive and see things for what they were, and not from a human view point of being very limited in being able to see the big picture, and knowing and really understanding why and how everything is the way it is, or was. And even more so then when I had the hypnotherapy sessions with my therapist.
When we communicated with each other, it wasn't as if someone was using their mouth to speak with. It was all a transfering of thoughts to each other, where anyone could hear these thoughts. For me, when someone was directing information at me, I could hear them just fine.
During my life review, I experienced first hand what I had read from the NDE books, in that when you have a life review, you are not only reliving your life, but you are experiencing the life of those who you had an affect on in their lives too. And so when I had my life review, I was me and them at basically the same time.
I have to say this, because during my life review there was nothing shown that caused for me to feel like I needed to judge myself, and I felt no judgment coming from any of the Light Beings. They were very positive, very Loving, very understanding, very caring, very compassionate, and highly accepting of the all of me and the life I had just had. I felt from them that they had a high level of respect for me in seeing me as having been very brave and showed alot of strength and courage to have put up with the things I had experienced in my life. I also felt that they were all very proud of me and felt like the special ones who shared in reliving my life during my life review. This is how they feel with others as well, which I knew that this was how they felt when being with family who returns back Home.
More to come.
Christ Love,
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